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« am: 10. September 2005, 11:38:34 »
 Eine kleine Warnung vorweg: Vieles von dem was folgt ist wirklich extrem pervers und abartig. Ich wiß das Ihr es wahrscheinlich trotzdem tut, aber bitte Euch das Thema zu ignorieren wenn Ihr nicht wenigstens 18 seid. (Nicht lachen, ich würde wirklich nicht wollen, dass Kinder und Jugendlich diesen Artikel lesen).

Also ich musste wohl oder übel einen neuen Charakter für eine neue Runde entwerfen. Ich habe zwar noch einen Character den ich vor Urzeiten mal in sehr langer arbeit entworfen und den regeln angepasst habe, der hat aber leider den Nachteil das er chaotisch gut ist (mit deutlicher Betonung auf "gut"). Also habe ich einen neuen Charakter entworfen... ein chaotisch neutraler Fey'ri. Was ich für den Hintergrund brauchte war eine konkrete Vorstellung zur Fey'ri Gesellschaft, die ich im folgenden Beschreibe.

Was noch fehlt ist das eingehen auf das Wesen von Fey'ri als Gestaltwandler (alter self indefinately at will), ihre religiösität und stand zu Göttern im allgemeinen und Ghaunandaur im speziellen (der den Fey'ri persönlich ierschienen ist), und allgemein ein paar Schlüsselfiguren wären höchst willkommen. Einzige mir bekannte ofizielle Quelle ist das Races of Faerun.

Der Text ist in englisch... ich hatte automatisch angefangen auf englisch meine Notizen zu machen und normalerweise bleibe ich dann auch dabei. Ist ist nicht geordnet, weil es eher eine Art ausgedehntes Brainstorming ist.

Fey'ri Society:
Fey'ri are very arrogant and very small in number. They believe the sun elves to be the crown of original creation and themselves as the only few who carried the sceptre onwards, beyond the creation of Correllion Larethian. Fey'ri, as whole strive for the power they believe to be pristine for and reclaim woods and lands that have fallen to those who are not elven. The dark, alien powers that have are part of themselves they see as their natural right, how unnatural they may be.
They a hardly ever governed, but when a ruler is needed they use their family structure, relaying on their patriarchs and matriarchs for guidance. Family tighs are as important as is power. But, as we will see below, family tighs between Fey'ri are very complex. The elders are most often half-demon.  One or two of them with way more than half fiendish blood.
However, their actual power and numbers are limited. Though they would tend to individuality by their very being, their enemies hunt them as one. Thus they work more closely together than other chaotic evil beings tend to. That is, because all Fey'ri, not just the individual, is a higher being in their being eyes (though most Fey'ri consider themselves as the very highest being existing). There are no laws in Fey'ri society. But there are silent agreements that certain things, such as murder between Fey'ri simply don't happen. That is, even though every single Fey'ri would like to see himself as ruler, to have something to rule and they consider worthy, they cannot effort to loose any other Fey'ri. That doesn't mean that there weren't intrigues and very cruel acts commited between them. It just means that no Fey'ri would do a more than temporal harm to another, since weekening an individual means ineviteably to weaken the whole and thus to weaken onesself.
Incest is major problem in Fey'ri society. Though, fitting very well to the perverted and decadent being of them, it leads to problems that need to be found a way to overcome as soon as possible. However, the tieflings are basically elves, and – as sun elves – they never think in short time spans. A plan is something that evolves over centuries in slow, for humans hardly notable steps. The incestuous society lead to 7 different clans. A member of any clan shares at least 75% of the blood of any other clan member, seen over the last 10 generations. And that while the demonic blood within them is most divergent. Easy to see that the Fey'ri, while being through and through evil, defend the good of mothers and children with a determinism that has no equal among any other evil society ever.
Fenlias is a young ling of the Fershealenth clan. This clan has some tendency towards chaos. Most chaotic neutral Fey'ri come from this clan. Some of his half brothers, sister, uncles, aunts, nephews and nieces (which are more often that not akin in at least two of those ways) are straight mad. Those are kept well hidden. Fershealenth are dangerous, since they might willingly or unwillingly betray the Fey'ri. But they hold also a chance for great power. Many of those who are considered harmless enough to be let loose came back with incredible experience thougout the world and can maintain contacts, other Fey'ri cannot. And this while it is not uncommon that they aren't obsessed with power as much as those who let them go. Those who come back, are the most valuable counselors for the Fey'ri who let them go.
This is the reason, why Fenlinas does not have to fear to be hunted. The Fey'ri need fearless agents and they have to take the risk. Should it become known that he unveils his origin, the Fey'ri would hunt him as much as all other elves would, though. Fenlinas is a very dangerous project. He is charismatic enough to draw many sun elves onto the side of Fey'ri, but he is also crazy enough to be turned around himself. And he has this sad tendency to show signs of “goodness”, or “weakness” as Fey'ri leaders would call it, now and then.
The lords and ladies of Fey'ri know, that if they want a Fey'ri become powerful, they shall let loose the demon he is and let him feast. And they need powerful followers. Thus in his youth, when Fenlinas showed first signs of being unwilling to be bound the hoard of the family, he absolved a very harsh training, and he spent numerous years perfectioning his skills of disguise. For example he cannot only speak every language he knows without any accent, he can also fake wrong accents of any kind. He is very resourceful when it becomes to copying other beings... all this was part of the training.
Holding slaves is common among Fey'ri, though the fewest have personal slaves. Many of those are actually “hopeful” sun elves – sun elves that may be willing to join their society. The others come from most diverge races, though mostly races that are easy to manipulate. Kobolds are seen often, since they tend to be relatively obedient and relatively small in power. However, Fey'ri hold a special hatred for dragons and anything that is somehow connected to them. The kobolds are kept in caves and behind magic barriers the Fey'ri consider hunting grounds. They are being fed and even supplied well, but they are also subject to the Fey'ri's demonic cruelty. Hardly any ever died a natural death. Any that shows tendencies of sorcery is being wiped out immedietly by a Fey'ri high mage. And Fey'ri keep all the magic sun elves keep, and some well beyond those.
Other, more powerful sentients are sometimes kept, especially elves and fey and those with elven blood. Kobolds are considered to be delicate after all.
Beyond that particular powerful Fey'ri seem to keep personal slaves. Those are usually abominations sometimes fey-demon crossbreed sometimes animals like dogs or boars crossed with with physically relatively small sentients (halflings, gnomes or again fey). They are not seldom dominated to serve as willing, even happy slaves. Fey'ri spend an enormous amount of energy in breeding those abomination to make them as amusing, dastarded and obedient to their masters as possible.  They are always small and it has been taken great care that they could never cause harm to a Fey'ri – they are both psychologically and physiologically unable to do so. They have been given relatively great freedom, but they cannot leave their lair. Usually several layers of spells, including several ways to monitor their position take care for this. The last layer of spells is always disintegrate to leave no dead body behind and an automated report to the eldars and owners.
The reason for all this common “hobby” of Fey'ri in general and their elders in particular is that they are a status symbol and lead very cruel surrogate wars between Fey'ri. They may not attack each other directly but they may slaughter each others toys. It is being regarded as a sign of weakness to personally directly act against another's personal slaves (while torturing, killing or feasting on one's own personal slaves happens now and then). However, such slaughters happen now and then, when a Fey'ri is really angry at another. In this case both Fey'ri (the owner and the killer) loose much of their status and abominations.  Those breeding methods are difficult, the result is often difficult to foresee. Thus the oldest of these clans take a great effort to monitor others experiments, not only to be able to have toys that counter their abilities, but also to protect the community. They are granted “insider-knowledge” in the great toy war and discuss it openly with the other patriarchs and matriarchs, but usually they do not abuse this knowledge in the game. At least not in an obvious ways.
Beyond that Fey'ri have theaters in the woods, to show off with their creation, letting them fight open battles, perform theatrical pieces within. These theaters also serve as shows of their own superiority in so far that regularly captives and unbound slaves are are ripped apart, tortured and/or raped raped there (in no particular order) for their entertainment. Most often lesser demons are summend for this purpose, but sometimes other creatures and sometimes simply an extremely hostile environment. Recently tentacle populated demons and evil outsiders have been popular.
As a sidenote: Fey'ri are not necromancers. They try to reshape life and living creatures in their image. Since they creatures they cross-breed are often antithetical, especially fey (incarnation of Toril's Nature) and demons (incarnation of the chaotic evil plain of the Abyss) make it necessary to use so called “compound souls”. Those do not have anything to do with necromancy. When such creatures are cross bred it beers two souls and would usually die soon after birth. To prevent it from doing so the two souls are stripped and mutilated and connected with a magical bounds. Both souls keep their own “natural” connections to the physical body, however; including intelligence, instincts, the concrete manifest of feelings (a soul itself does not feel in so far as it is not sensual, it is however a spring of feeling, it is a diffuse emotion as is, that can be projected onto a body in many ways). Such creatures (wrongly) perceive themselves as a single individual – due to the fact hat two tortured souls share one conscience. The demonic part of the soul has usually the better end of it.
These experiments are most important for Fey'ri since that is actually what they doing to themselves – not compound souls, but excessive cross breeding. There have been experiments with symbiotic souls, each having its own self awareness, with a Fey'ri or sun elven soul dominating and demon soul as symbiont. Those were failures, though. They can be found sometimes deep in the caves and temples beneath Fey'ri. Their intellect is neglectable, but they are physically very powerful and graceful in their moves (though not in their looks). They usually die relatively soon, hardly longer than a human life-span.
As the inclined reader may have noticed, the above mentioned is too evil to leave a non-evil mind unharmed. A neutral being will either internally revolt or evolve towards evil.  Fenlinas did the first after unspeakable acts of cruelty he already committed, that are a direct affront to his neutral being. On a conscious level he isn't ashamed of what he did – it is just part of his very being and the privilege of Fey'ri – the original crown of creation created by Correllion Larethian, improved by themselves. However, deep within his self he is looking for redemption. The matriarchs and patriarchs of Fey'ri are unaware of that problem. While they know that they belong to the alignment “evil”, they use a different, non-ethic interpretation of it and call it “strength”. Thus, they are unaware of the inner conflict that it may cause. They are absolutely convinced that Fey'ri, left to learn as Fenlinas is, will become “stronger”, will become more evil.

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« Antwort #1 am: 11. September 2005, 12:46:45 »
 Ich habe das jetzt erstmal überflogen (genaue Bewertung kommt noch) aber ich fände es vor allem noch Interessant wie viele Fey'ri es derzeit so genau gibt, nach Sarya Befreiungsaktionen dürften es Tausende mehr sein. Die Fey'ri leben ja zum größtenteil in alten Elfenruinen, aber wo? Myth Glaurach mussten sie wegen der Elfenarmee aus Immerdar verlassen und ihren ersten Stützpunkt unterhalb der Stadt Lothen haben sie ja auch aufgegeben, wo wohnen die tausenden Fey'ri?

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« Antwort #2 am: 11. September 2005, 14:52:52 »
 Ich bin eigentlich eher von einigen dutzend, vielleicht einem Gros ausgegangen... von Befreiungsaktionen weiß ich nichts. Wo steht das?

Bei den Orten bin ich in erster Linie von Wäldern oder Ruinen ausgegangen, vor allem im High Forest. Irgendwas bestimmtes hatte ich da nicht im Sinn.

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« Antwort #3 am: 11. September 2005, 15:12:32 »
 Ah ja... ich bezog mich da auf eine Stelle wo es heißt "The Fey'ri associated withHouse Dlardargeth originally numbered less than 60"

Und weiter heißt es da, dass es seit dem eher weniger geworden wären. Wenn es doch tausende wären, wäre das ziemlich ärgerlich,  dann könnte ich nämlich alles löschen und von vorne anfangen.
Eine Gesellschaft wie beschrieben kann nur funktionieren wenn jeder jeden kennt und die beziehungen der anderen untereinander. Und das ist (bei Menschen irl) nicht möglich mit mehr als 150 Individuen, da die Anzahl der Beziehungen exponentiell mit der Anzahl der Indivuiduen wächst...

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« Antwort #4 am: 11. September 2005, 15:30:43 »
 Also in dem Roman "The Last Mythal" befreit Sarya Dargladreth einige Tausend Fey'ri aus dem "Nameless Dungeon" und einigen anderen Orten. Die Fey'ri verlagern ihren Stützpunkt von Lothen nach Myth Glaurach, dessen Mythal sie irgendwie nutzen wollen.

Zudem starten sie einen Feldzug gegen die Waldelfen des Hochwalds, werden aber von einer Armee aus Evereksa und Immerdar geschlagen. Die Fey'ri verflüchtigen sich daraufhin und ihr neuer Aufenthaltsort ist unklar. Das alles geschieht allerdings erst 1374 TZ und ist in "The Forsaken House Trilogy" nachzulesen oder im Kampagnenband "Lost Empires" ich zitiere mal:

" ... the Fey'ri are far stronger than they have been in Milennia now that the thousands of fey'ri warrirors recently freed from the nameless dungeon have swelled their ranks."

Somit ist die Fey'ri Gesellschaft in letzter Zeit sprunghaft gewachsen!

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« Antwort #5 am: 11. September 2005, 17:58:47 »
Zitat von: "Schreckensjul"
Also in dem Roman "The Last Mythal" befreit Sarya Dargladreth einige Tausend Fey'ri aus dem "Nameless Dungeon" und einigen anderen Orten. Die Fey'ri verlagern ihren Stützpunkt von Lothen nach Myth Glaurach, dessen Mythal sie irgendwie nutzen wollen.

Zudem starten sie einen Feldzug gegen die Waldelfen des Hochwalds, werden aber von einer Armee aus Evereksa und Immerdar geschlagen. Die Fey'ri verflüchtigen sich daraufhin und ihr neuer Aufenthaltsort ist unklar. Das alles geschieht allerdings erst 1374 TZ und ist in "The Forsaken House Trilogy" nachzulesen oder im Kampagnenband "Lost Empires" ich zitiere mal:

" ... the Fey'ri are far stronger than they have been in Milennia now that the thousands of fey'ri warrirors recently freed from the nameless dungeon have swelled their ranks."

Somit ist die Fey'ri Gesellschaft in letzter Zeit sprunghaft gewachsen!
Da hat man's wieder. Romanautoren sind mindestens genauso chaotisch böse (zumindest chaotisch) wie die Fey'ri. Ich will doch stark hoffen, dass die zumindest die Schurken in der Geschichte waren. Wie es ein Sammlung von (üblicherweise) chaotisch bösen tieflingen und Halb-Dämonen geschafft hat Jahrtausende in Gefangenschaft zu verweilen ohne sich gegenseitig uzubringen ist mir schleierhaft.

Ebenso warum sie gleich die Apokalypse hinaufbeschwören wollen anstatt erst mal Fuß zu fassen. Vielleicht erst mal auf friedfertig machen und Botschafter nach Evermeet schicken und rausfinden was Sache ist. Das dauert nach normalen elfischen Maßstäben doch mindestens ein Jahrhundert.

Mag ja sein, dass sie nun Kreaturen des bösen sind und chaotisch sowieso, aber von Elfen würde ich dennoch erwarten, dass sie sich an die Weisheit "Rache ist ein Gericht, dass am besten kalt serviert wird" halten. Chaotisch bedeutet ja nicht zwangsläufig planlos und überstürzt. Aber nein, die Fey'ri verhalten sich wie Orks, bloß weil sie zufällig die selbe Gesinnung habe.

Es sei denn, die Fey'ri lassen sich tatsächlich von Tanar'ri anführen. In dem Falle würde ich mich als helbwegs intelligenter Fey'ri (und die bekommen immerhin 2 auf int) ganz schnell aus dem Staube machen und irgendwo eine friedliche, bösartige Existenz fristen bis sich die Wogen geglättet haben. Vorherzusehen, dass sie, nachdem sie für das paktieren mit Dämonen eingegekert worden sind, für die Apokalypse nicht unbedingt eine mildere Strafe bekommen sollte ja nicht sehr schwer fallen.

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« Antwort #6 am: 12. September 2005, 09:54:06 »
Zitat von: "Rabenschwinge"
Vieles von dem was folgt ist wirklich extrem pervers und abartig. Ich wiß das Ihr es wahrscheinlich trotzdem tut, aber bitte Euch das Thema zu ignorieren wenn Ihr nicht wenigstens 18 seid.

(...) These theaters also serve as shows of their own superiority in so far that regularly captives and unbound slaves are are ripped apart, tortured and/or raped raped there (in no particular order) for their entertainment.
Wenn du die Vergewaltigungen weglässt, hast du wieder eine jugendfreie Version. Ich mag so was eh nicht im Rollenspiel.  ;)  
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« Antwort #7 am: 12. September 2005, 11:30:56 »
 
Zitat von: "Froirizzin do'Cheiro"
Zitat von: "Rabenschwinge"
Vieles von dem was folgt ist wirklich extrem pervers und abartig. Ich wiß das Ihr es wahrscheinlich trotzdem tut, aber bitte Euch das Thema zu ignorieren wenn Ihr nicht wenigstens 18 seid.

(...) These theaters also serve as shows of their own superiority in so far that regularly captives and unbound slaves are are ripped apart, tortured and/or raped raped there (in no particular order) for their entertainment.
Wenn du die Vergewaltigungen weglässt, hast du wieder eine jugendfreie Version. Ich mag so was eh nicht im Rollenspiel.  ;)
Nur weil ich das Wort "rape" benutze? Eigentlich hatte ich den Abschnitt gar nicht gemeint, viel eher den der mit "Beyond that particular powerful Fey'ri...", weil ich in dem eine Art Vergewaltigung ziemlich detailliert schildere. Und zwar eine in weit schlimmeren Ausmaßen, weil sie vollständig, selisch und körperlich ist.

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« Antwort #8 am: 12. September 2005, 19:14:25 »
 Da steht nicht von Vergewaltigung, nur von Sklaverei und Abschlachten.

Absolut spieltauglich (wenn du das rapen weglässt).  :rolleyes:  
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« Antwort #9 am: 09. Oktober 2005, 13:22:36 »
 Am Rande bemerkt: es ist wirklich ratsam die Bücher Last Mythal und Farthest Reach zu lesen, denn da wird so einiges zur Geschichte und dem Hintergrund - auch der Fey'ri - erklärt. Leider bekommen wir die Auflösung der Romanreihe erst Mitte nächsten Jahres, da Rich Baker asl einer der Chefdesigner wohl etwas weniger Zeit gehabt hat. Ähnlich wie beim WotSQ sind hier noch größere FR-verändernde Dinge am Überkochen und die Leserschaft und DM-Gemeinde kann die Fingernägel im Dutzend verschwinden sehen  :unsure:

Übrigens binden alte Schwüre die meisten Fey'ri an Countess Sarya, die ja auch nicht irgendwer ist  ;)  
Ust, usstan elgg dos ...

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« Antwort #10 am: 28. Oktober 2005, 15:12:05 »
 Stimme zu, die Bücher sind wirklich toll.

Das beste, was ich in letztes Zeit gelesen habe.

*aufdendrittenBandwart*

Und: o.g. Kritikpunkte (die Eroberungspläne etc.) machen darin allesamt Sinn! Will hier aber keine weiteren Spoiler verbreiten. Selber lesen!