hallo!
vor einiger ziet habe ich mich an ein diplomatie-minmax herangemacht. damals war aber einiges nicht klar bezüglich der verwendung der marshal-klasse,
jetzt habe ich das miniatures handbook, und da steht explizit dass man die neuen basis-klassen auch im normalen DnD verwenden kann.
noch dazu gibts jetzt das BoED, das mit dem Vow of Poverty ja nur zum powergamen einlädt.
ich würde gerne eure meinung bezüglich der regelkonformität dieses diplomatie-builds hören.
anmerkung: wer eine übersichtlichere darstellung als hier im forum haben möchte der sollte
http://www.petersson.at/dipl/dipl.rar' target='_blank'>hier
mal reinschauen.. insbesondere das excel-file ist gut lesbar
Rasse: halb-elf
str 10
dex 10
con 10
int 14
wis 12
cha 18
Diplomatie-Bonus im Überblick:
Lvl1 19
Lvl2 20
Lvl3 23
Lvl4 24
Lvl5 25
Lvl6 32
Lvl7 35
Lvl8 38
Lvl9 41
Lvl10 52
Lvl11 57
Lvl12 62
Lvl13 63
Lvl14 64
Lvl15 69
Lvl16 76
Lvl17 77
Lvl18 80
Lvl19 85
Lvl20 86
Lvl 1:
Klasse:Marshal(1)
Minor Aura: Motivate Charisma
Marshal: Skill Focus:Diplomacy
Feat: Sacred Vow
Skills:
Diplomacy Bluff Disguise Gather Information Sense Motive Perform Hide Move Silently Intimidate Knowledge(nobility and Royality) Knowledge(religion) Knowledge(arcana) Knowledge(nature) Knowledge(the planes
4 4 0 0 4 0 0 0 2 4 2 1 1 0
2 Skill points frei
Attack Fort Ref Will
0 2 0 2
Lvl 2:
Klasse Marshal(1)/Wizard(1)
Skills:
Diplomacy Bluff Disguise Gather Information Sense Motive Perform Hide Move Silently Intimidate Knowledge(nobility and Royality) Knowledge(religion) Knowledge(arcana) Knowledge(nature) Knowledge(the planes
5 4 0 1 4 0 0 0 2 4 2 3 1 0
Attack Fort Ref Will
0 2 0 4
Lvl 3:
Klasse Marshal(1)/Wizard(2)
Feat: Cosmopolitan (Diplomacy)
Skills:
Diplomacy Bluff Disguise Gather Information Sense Motive Perform Hide Move Silently Intimidate Knowledge(nobility and Royality) Knowledge(religion) Knowledge(arcana) Knowledge(nature) Knowledge(the planes
6 4 0 1 4 0 1 1 2 4 2 3 2 0
Attack Fort Ref Will
0 2 0 5
Lvl 4:
Attributbonus: Charisma(19)
Klasse Marshal(1)/Wizard(3)
Skills:
Diplomacy Bluff Disguise Gather Information Sense Motive Perform Hide Move Silently Intimidate Knowledge(nobility and Royality) Knowledge(religion) Knowledge(arcana) Knowledge(nature) Knowledge(the planes
7 4 0 1 4 0 2 2 2 4 2 3 3 0
Attack Fort Ref Will
3 1 5 3
Lvl 5:
Klasse Marshal(1)/Wizard(3)/Rogue(1)
Skills:
Diplomacy Bluff Disguise Gather Information Sense Motive Perform Hide Move Silently Intimidate Knowledge(nobility and Royality) Knowledge(religion) Knowledge(arcana) Knowledge(nature) Knowledge(the planes
8 4 0 3 4 0 8 3 2 4 2 3 3 0
Attack Fort Ref Will
1 3 3 5
Lvl 6:
Klasse Marshal(1)/Wizard(3)/Rogue(1)/Guild Thief(1)
Feat: Vow of Peace
Skills:
Diplomacy Bluff Disguise Gather Information Sense Motive Perform Hide Move Silently Intimidate Knowledge(nobility and Royality) Knowledge(religion) Knowledge(arcana) Knowledge(nature) Knowledge(the planes
9 5 0 3 5 0 8 3 3 5 2 3 3 0
Attack Fort Ref Will
1 3 5 5
Lvl 7:
Klasse Marshal(1)/Wizard(3)/Rogue(1)/Guild Thief(2)
Bonus Feat: Leadership
VoPow Atrribute Bonus: Charisma (21)
Skills:
Diplomacy Bluff Disguise Gather Information Sense Motive Perform Hide Move Silently Intimidate Knowledge(nobility and Royality) Knowledge(religion) Knowledge(arcana) Knowledge(nature) Knowledge(the planes
10 5 0 3 5 0 8 3 3 5 4 3 3 0
1 Punkt frei zu verteilen.
Attack Fort Ref Will
2 4 5 5
Lvl 8:
Attributbonus: Charisma(22)
Klasse Marshal(1)/Wizard(4)/Rogue(1)/Guild Thief(2)
VoPow Bonus Feat: Vow of Nonviolence
Skills:
Diplomacy Bluff Disguise Gather Information Sense Motive Perform Hide Move Silently Intimidate Knowledge(nobility and Royality) Knowledge(religion) Knowledge(arcana) Knowledge(nature) Knowledge(the planes
10 5 0 3 5 0 8 3 3 5 4 3 3 0
Attack Fort Ref Will
3 4 5 6
Lvl 9:
Klasse Marshal(1)/Wizard(5)/Rogue(1)/Guild Thief(2)
Feat: negotiator
Skills:
Diplomacy Bluff Disguise Gather Information Sense Motive Perform Hide Move Silently Intimidate Knowledge(nobility and Royality) Knowledge(religion) Knowledge(arcana) Knowledge(nature) Knowledge(the planes
12 5 0 3 5 0 8 3 4 5 10 3 5 0
Attack Fort Ref Will
3 4 5 6
Lvl 10:
Klasse Marshal(1)/Wizard(5)/Rogue(1)/Guild Thief(2)/Mindbender(1)
VoPow Feat: Vow of Peace
Mindbender Ability: Skill Boost(Diplomacy)
Skills:
Diplomacy Bluff Disguise Gather Information Sense Motive Perform Hide Move Silently Intimidate Knowledge(nobility and Royality) Knowledge(religion) Knowledge(arcana) Knowledge(nature) Knowledge(the planes
13 5 0 3 5 0 8 3 4 5 13 3 5 0
Attack Fort Ref Will
3 6 5 8
Lvl 11:
Klasse Marshal(1)/Wizard(5)/Rogue(1)/Guild Thief(2)/Mindbender(1)/Contemplative(1)
VoPow Attribute: Intelligence, Charisma(24)
Contemplative Prestige Domain: Community
Skills:
Diplomacy Bluff Disguise Gather Information Sense Motive Perform Hide Move Silently Intimidate Knowledge(nobility and Royality) Knowledge(religion) Knowledge(arcana) Knowledge(nature) Knowledge(the planes
14 5 0 3 5 0 8 3 4 5 13 4 6 0
Attack Fort Ref Will
3 6 5 10
Lvl 12:
Attributbonus: Charisma(25)
Klasse Marshal(1)/Wizard(5)/Rogue(1)/Guild Thief(2)/Mindbender(1)/Contemplative(2)
Feat: trustworthy
VoPow Feat: Nymphs Kiss
Skills:
Diplomacy Bluff Disguise Gather Information Sense Motive Perform Hide Move Silently Intimidate Knowledge(nobility and Royality) Knowledge(religion) Knowledge(arcana) Knowledge(nature) Knowledge(the planes
15 5 0 3 5 0 8 3 4 5 13 6 6 0
Attack Fort Ref Will
4 6 5 11
Lvl 13:
Klasse Marshal(1)/Wizard(5)/Rogue(1)/Guild Thief(2)/Mindbender(1)/Contemplative(3)
Skills:
Diplomacy Bluff Disguise Gather Information Sense Motive Perform Hide Move Silently Intimidate Knowledge(nobility and Royality) Knowledge(religion) Knowledge(arcana) Knowledge(nature) Knowledge(the planes
16 5 0 3 5 0 8 3 4 5 13 6 6 0
5 skillpunkte frei zu verteilen
Attack Fort Ref Will
4 7 6 12
Lvl 14:
Klasse Marshal(1)/Wizard(5)/Rogue(1)/Guild Thief(2)/Mindbender(1)/Contemplative(3)/Geomancer(1)
VoPow Feat: Servant of the Heavens
Skills:
Diplomacy Bluff Disguise Gather Information Sense Motive Perform Hide Move Silently Intimidate Knowledge(nobility and Royality) Knowledge(religion) Knowledge(arcana) Knowledge(nature) Knowledge(the planes
17 5 0 3 5 0 8 3 4 5 13 6 6 0
7 skillpunkte frei zu verteilen
Attack Fort Ref Will
4 9 6 14
Lvl 15:
Klasse Marshal(1)/Wizard(5)/Rogue(1)/Guild Thief(2)/Mindbender(1)/Contemplative(3)/Geomancer(2)
Feat: Smooth Talk
VoPow Attribute: Wisdom, Charisma(27)
Skills:
Diplomacy Bluff Disguise Gather Information Sense Motive Perform Hide Move Silently Intimidate Knowledge(nobility and Royality) Knowledge(religion) Knowledge(arcana) Knowledge(nature) Knowledge(the planes
18 5 0 3 5 0 8 3 4 5 13 6 6 0
8 skillpunkte frei zu verteilen
Attack Fort Ref Will
5 10 6 15
Lvl 16:
Attributbonus: Charisma(28)
Klasse Marshal(1)/Wizard(5)/Rogue(1)/Guild Thief(2)/Mindbender(1)/Contemplative(3)/Geomancer(3)
Geomancer drift 2: comely as a dryad
VoPow Feat: Gift of Faith
Skills:
Diplomacy Bluff Disguise Gather Information Sense Motive Perform Hide Move Silently Intimidate Knowledge(nobility and Royality) Knowledge(religion) Knowledge(arcana) Knowledge(nature) Knowledge(the planes
19 5 0 3 5 0 8 3 4 5 13 6 6 0
8 skillpunkte frei zu verteilen
Attack Fort Ref Will
6 10 7 15
Lvl 17:
Klasse Marshal(1)/Wizard(5)/Rogue(1)/Guild Thief(2)/Mindbender(1)/Contemplative(4)/Geomancer(3)
VoPow Feat: Gift of Faith
Skills:
Diplomacy Bluff Disguise Gather Information Sense Motive Perform Hide Move Silently Intimidate Knowledge(nobility and Royality) Knowledge(religion) Knowledge(arcana) Knowledge(nature) Knowledge(the planes
20 5 0 3 5 0 8 3 4 5 13 6 6 0
6 skillpunkte frei zu verteilen
Attack Fort Ref Will
7 10 7 16
Lvl 18:
Klasse Marshal(1)/Wizard(5)/Rogue(1)/Guild Thief(2)/Mindbender(1)/Contemplative(5)/Geomancer(3)
Feat: Trustworthy
VoPow Feat: Words of Creation
Skills:
Diplomacy Bluff Disguise Gather Information Sense Motive Perform Hide Move Silently Intimidate Knowledge(nobility and Royality) Knowledge(religion) Knowledge(arcana) Knowledge(nature) Knowledge(the planes
21 5 0 3 5 0 8 3 4 5 13 6 6 2
2 skillpunkte frei zu verteilen
Attack Fort Ref Will
7 10 7 16
Lvl 19:
Klasse Marshal(1)/Wizard(5)/Rogue(1)/Guild Thief(2)/Mindbender(1)/Contemplative(6)/Geomancer(3)
VoPow Attribute: Constitution, Charisma(30)
Contemplative Prestige Domain: Mind
Skills:
Diplomacy Bluff Disguise Gather Information Sense Motive Perform Hide Move Silently Intimidate Knowledge(nobility and Royality) Knowledge(religion) Knowledge(arcana) Knowledge(nature) Knowledge(the planes
22 5 0 3 5 0 8 3 4 5 13 6 6 4
3 skillpunkte frei zu verteilen
Attack Fort Ref Will
8 11 8 17
Lvl 20:
Attributbonus: Charisma(31)
Klasse Marshal(1)/Wizard(5)/Rogue(1)/Guild Thief(2)/Mindbender(1)/Contemplative(6)/Geomancer(3)/ Emissary of Baraciel(1)
Skills:
Diplomacy Bluff Disguise Gather Information Sense Motive Perform Hide Move Silently Intimidate Knowledge(nobility and Royality) Knowledge(religion) Knowledge(arcana) Knowledge(nature) Knowledge(the planes
23 5 0 3 5 0 8 3 4 5 13 6 6 4
9 skillpunkte frei zu verteilen
Attack Fort Ref Will
8 11 8 19